Curse

Windf0rce · Nov 11, 2008, 09:35 AM // 09:35

/signed

I want a death count reset, or account-wide survivor/LDoA, whatever makes it possible to retry it without rerolling the char.

I am a perfectionist, thus every of my 4 PvE chars are Legendary Survivors. Still, I want to make more PvE chars, but I don't because I'll have to grind the title again before actually "playing the character".

crazybanshee · Nov 11, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Been suggested a hundred times already. I'm in the same boat, with my main who has 30 titles and a completely full hom with all weps and armors etc. I'm not about to recreate it. But, I doubt they'll ever do that so I went and made a toon specifically to get survivor, so when the hom goes account wide I can at least have the statue for my main, if not the actual title.

shmek · Nov 16, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by Rera

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Give old characters a one-time death reset.

Legendary Survivor is the only title that involves risk - it is the only title that you can actually fail to get *permanently*. Removing this risk makes it a very different title.

I agree with this line of reasonning. Ability to code in a one time reset title experience to take a run at the title would be great. Even a one time reset to level1 is fine too. I don't want to wash all old experience just start a one time calculation that turns this on for the character and resets you to level 1, would be nice and a truly fun experience.

(I have made 5 Legendary Survivors since the title was innacted and it's been a huge bummer this isn't allowed for the character I actually play the most. If I didn't have several titles already when the Survivor title was made I would have remade the character and LOST my opportunities for yearly presents for the birthday. Each time I make a new character I do them legendary survivors and none of my characters went boxing, outside Kaening, etc.... playing thorugh the game and farming in some hard mode spots yes. First legendary was before hardmode too.)

Again, good idea for an ANET improvement but /agree here only for a count resetter for a one shot run that starts with level one... and even on the starting island or pre-searing is fine too (but that would likely produce huge bugs in pre-searing that we don't need. - put me back there and I'd go legendary defender instead for sure...now that would be truely nice since I have gone and made two there as well.)

Whenitrainsitpours · Nov 16, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

I agree, I love playing my warrior however it was also my first character so it was destined to die and it really isn't fair that you lose access to a title due to being new to a game.

viper11025 · Nov 17, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

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Originally Posted by Refyused

/SIGNED

I've played since day 1 (in the betas too) and because my character was old, I obviously had deaths when Factions came out, and that prevents me from being able to get the title. I also refuse to start over.

/signed with a pumpkin on top

HFFF/FFF died.......also, what about the guys with only just proph or nf?

Yeah, you people can stay biased to the lucky characters that escaped the nerf.
Go head, hit them with the flame, I don't care for survior for a reason, because lets face it....who really wore it? No one had past rank 1 until factions whenever I saw them, unless it was a monk.

Reset it with /reset. Revert the death count to 0 and let people grind for it and make it 20x harder to get, solved.
My 9mil exp should cover the cost though.

Domino · Nov 18, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I see a whole lot of whining going on here. Some people need to seriously get a grip here... when you bought this game, you knew there were no guarantees of the availability of titles or content.

I used to work in fast food, and this reminds me of people that used to bitch about not being able to substitute and change coupons to what they want. It's a coupon people... it's value is exactly what's on it. The survivor title is exactly what it says, and if your character doesn't apply for it, then it doesn't apply. Make a new character or stop whining. Just because you started a character back in 2005 doesn't mean you're entitled to all this stuff that didn't even exist at the time. Are you gonna complain when your car company releases a newer model of car that's better than yours this year, OH but I bought a car in 2005 so that means I'm entitled to the new one right? Seriously people...

And to finalize all this... this whole issue is pointless once GW2 ships, and we all have to make new characters anyway. So as far as I'm concerned I'm going to put my big "MEH" stamp on this whole issue because it's pointless.

Scythe Co · Nov 18, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

/signed

i cudnt bare to start my acc again. alll the mishes, all the quests, all the char based titles

Enon · Nov 18, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

/not signed

Make it so that one doesn't progress in the Survival title track if one is farming experience by afk'ing, brawling or what ever other lame way they use.

Sneaky Mcsneaksneak · Nov 19, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

/notsigned.
30 Titles to get r6 Maxed title track.
43 titles available on any given character.
5 are pvp only. (Hero, Commander, Gladiator, Gamer, Commander)
Survivor and Legendary Hero of Ascalon are mutually exclusive.
If we take all 7 away from the count, that still leaves us with 36 titles.
That's six more than you need for r6.
Stop whining.

newbie_of_doom · Nov 19, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

well its not the same thing if you get 1337k xp at lvl20 or from lvl0 without dying, but i agree it should be like this because there was people who played on their pve before the title and therefore never had a chance to get it. which really matters if you want God Walking blablablablaba

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

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Instead of changing survivor, create a survivor equlivalant title that resets the amount of exp you need every time you die, but you can still get it after you die and keep it (or improve it) if you do.

And ref is right, it takes a heckuva long time to farm that kind of XP.

gd idea, but then survivor would still have survivor, while others dont. While this is unfair because they never got a chance to.
And dont you get like 300xp for killing a dwarven on dwarven boxing HM with a berserker scroll?

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Originally Posted by Sneaky Mcsneaksneak

/notsigned.
30 Titles to get r6 Maxed title track.
43 titles available on any given character.
5 are pvp only. (Hero, Commander, Gladiator, Gamer, Commander)
Survivor and Legendary Hero of Ascalon are mutually exclusive.
If we take all 7 away from the count, that still leaves us with 36 titles.
That's six more than you need for r6.
Stop whining.

Iherdsurvivorwaseasier than drunkard.

RedNova88 · Feb 23, 2009, 09:11 AM // 09:11

I said it once, twice, three, and four times. Yet, I'll say it again, leave it the way it is except allow those that have lost the opportunity previous to it being implemented. In other words, let the veterans actually have a chance at it but leave it the same otherwise.

Why? Or why not?

Eragon Zarroc · Feb 23, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

I definitely want survivor account-wide so that i can have 36 max titles instead of the measly 35 that i have now ;-). Hell, why not throw LDoA in there to as well while you are at it. =D 37/30 would be AWESOME! =D

DragonRogue · Feb 23, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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I dont agree with this at all. If they reset your death count then they need to reset you back to level 1, wipe all your skills, and put you back in presearing with access to no areas at all even after the searing. This would be only fair since thats how those of us who got our survivours were forced to do it.

Does it suck for those of you who started toons way before this title? YES. But it also sucks for those of us who didnt get chests we opened for the Treasure Hunter title before that was available. or before it went account wide and while passed up chests on our non-title toons because we were saving the lock picks for the toon that it actually mattered on. Oh well, Life isnt fair. Be happy that life isnt fair, because if it wasnt, it would mean that you acually DESERVE all the troubles you get.

If you want a survivour toon, then start a new one. Do it the real way. You already have all the skills unlocked on your account and tomes to put them on this toon to arm him to the hilt at level 1. Your heros are already buffed with any build you can think of. And you are armed with the knowledge of the game and where best to farm for it, and how to avoid stupid mistakes. As for connection, well this has always been considered the 2nd Lucky title for years. And work that toon thru all the grind to GWAMM. What else do you have to do while you wait the almost 2 years for GW2?

And for those out there who hate. I started a brand new account with no skills, no gold, no nothing on an elem in Pre-Sear. I didnt buy skill unlock packs or anything to help the account. But I was armed with the knowledge of what to do. I took Legendary Survivour by farming Zelnehluns in NF, took me two weeks in NM since I had yet to beat any games to unlock HM. 11 months later I celebrated GWAMM. So it can be done. If you apply yourself Im sure you could do it in under 6 months, tho I needed the extra time to farm holiday items and gold to max out the Drunk, Party, and Sweets titles.

Footnote: way to resurrect a completely dead thread that obviously failed the first time.

king_trouble · Feb 23, 2009, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Bad idea, I've made a couple ls characters my self and evey time I make a character I try to get that title to make leveling a little more challeging. This would make getting survivor much to easier than it already is. Compare how hard getting survivor was back when only Prophs was out to how it is now. They already made the title way to easy to get.

MithranArkanere · Feb 25, 2009, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by king_trouble

/not signed
Bad idea, I've made a couple ls characters my self and evey time I make a character I try to get that title to make leveling a little more challeging. This would make getting survivor much to easier than it already is. Compare how hard getting survivor was back when only Prophs was out to how it is now. They already made the title way to easy to get.

Eh... no.

Making it would still be as easy as it is. The difference will be that we could get it with the character we want to.

Yawgmoth · Feb 25, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19

/signed

but only because something HAVE TO be done with this title, not necessarily what OP said.

Our old favorite characters created before Factions release can't be permanently disadvantaged and should get at least that 1 chance. Most reasonable solution would be imho to:

Give every pre-Factions character 1 chance to spawn an unique item - a Survivor Token with a new /command, customized to him/her and recording it's profession. Then you must put it in inventory of a NEW character of the same profession, from Prophecies campagin and with /deaths=0 (and maybe with a level restriction like max lv=9) and it activates - becomes stuck in that character's inventory - can't be put instorage or dropped on ground.
When the character with activated token in inventory dies - the token disappears forever.
When the character with activated token in inventory achieves the Legendary Survivor (3) title - the Survivor Token gets authorized and can be put in storage again. The new character then dies and loses the survivor title track (so you can't make 2 ls in 1 go)
Now when a character double-clicks an Authorized Survivor Token customized to him, he receives the Legendary Survivor title, done in a fair way.

There may be additional restrictions, like: The new survivor character created can't leave original Prophecies content (no boxing survivor for old characters) and maybe even can't learn other skills than Prophecies/Core, and disabling Hard Mode. But then it can get a little complicated, preventing tricks like running to other campagins before taking the token may require closing access to other continents and unlearning of disallowed skills upon activating of the survivor token. Or maybe requiring a way to transfer and activate the token from Xunlai Chest straight to Pre-Searing with some new /command.

Hard Way but Fair Way - it would be like going back in time and playing your old fav character from start again, but with the knowledge of existance of a Survivor Title.

EDIT:: I forgot one important detail: Obviously, old Pre-Factions characters that have LDoA OR are still in Pre-Searing shouldn't be able to spawn the token or receive any other chance at Survivor.

elk · Feb 25, 2009, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Could really care less how they come up with the solution to it, but defintely /signed for Proph characters getting a crack at the survivor title.

elk

laksa and curry · Feb 26, 2009, 04:40 AM // 04:40

/ not signed. Just start grinding and stop commplaining. I am working on my second gwamm, there will be a third a forth. So have fun do not only play or grind with 1 character.

Hanok Odbrook · Mar 02, 2009, 06:47 AM // 06:47

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Our old favorite characters created before Factions release can't be permanently disadvantaged and should get at least that 1 chance.

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Originally Posted by elk

Could really care less how they come up with the solution to it, but defintely /signed for Proph characters getting a crack at the survivor title.

elk

How exactly were they disadvantaged? Whether the title existed or not, isn't the point of most games of this design to avoid death, regardless of the type of penalty (or lack thereof) for such a failure?

I once met a player who had LS on a Proph character shortly after the titles were released because that was the way he played the game - to avoid dying - he didn't need a title for any such motivation.

I also have played that way from the beginning - I don't need a title to feel the need to avoid the failure of death. In fact, I re-rolled a LS character six months ago because I f-ed up shortly after achieving LS on that character. Doesn't matter to me that I spent over a year playing that character through the various campaigns and achieved LS without farming. Nor did it matter that the title remains despite dying afterwards. My goal has been and always will be to play through all campaigns whilst avoiding death and major forms of farming.

I care not one whit how many of my characters have or do not have LS or LDOA. These titles will not affect the way I approach the game. For those who feel the compulsion of needing to change the way they play for these titles, then perhaps one should re-visit their reasons for playing to begin with.

Hanok Odbrook

Lourens · Mar 02, 2009, 07:21 AM // 07:21

I realy like this cats have 9 lives to so why cant we get that

Yes from the point where you where born again (1327 time lolwhut?) and after 1337000xp you will get rank 3